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Alex Lema July 22, 2016
About Harambe Detox experience, review, I had some expectations about this experience that were unmatched. First a brief description. The place is a approximately 150m2 house, with an indoor patio, surrounded by orange tree fields, hills, the highway a few hundred meters away and a quarry on the distance. Found at the end of an exit from the highway a few kilometers from the nearest city Llíria and 15 minutes car ride from the nearest Hospital. There are 5 people total at the house, Cathy and Bilal wife and husband of the family, and three children of approximately 16, 8 and 3 years old. Next a note about Iboga. While on it, sound, light and mood felt sensible compared to off it. I expected my attention to be focused on the healing process, nothing else. Many unmatched expectations derive from this. Examples. A few things that conflicted with my expectations. I vomited during the session. The bucket wasn't changed nor cleaned for three days until I cleaned it. The was no use of a heart monitor during the session. There was a misunderstanding during the skype call I had with Cathy. I understood my heart would be monitored throughout the session. This reassured me as I understood that had something unusual happen to my heart rate some sort of alarm would go off. I was scared to go to sleep, worrying I might have some heart problem and it would go unnoticed. I was checked every 30 minutes by Bilal entering into the room asking if I was okay. My heart rate was taken at one point at the beginning of the trip with a blood pressure monitor. The overall mood at the house felt unpleasant, tense, silent, unsettling. I felt Cathy and Bilal don't get along and that creeping out on the mood. Heard a few low voice argues, and some higher tone ones. I expected a different mood and setting. Didn't felt embraced or at ease, rather alone and worried. As kids live there, there was way more noise at the house than expected. The young ones as they are developing their vocal chords tended to high pitch shout throughout the days. Kids to do that I expected. Kids doing that there at that time I did not. Sometimes kids were taken out, sometimes they were told to stop. Sometimes they did stop, sometimes not. I asked a few times this subject to be addressed. I expected a different quality of the environment After two days without eating I felt starving. If Cathy wasn't home, which happened a few times, food wasn't available. Bilal did not provide any. I stood up still halfway down the trip to find something to eat and wasn't helped by Bilal. Opened the fridge and didn't find much to eat. The kitchen seemed quite dirty, as did the fridge. Decided to take some cereal, and the milk brick I took was rotten, withe the consistency of a yogurt and solid chunks, quite unpleasant. Didn't felt like I was being taken care of. Later on I was provided a meal. To my surprised it had spicy on it. With an empty stomach and after vomiting I suspected spicy food would favor stomach ache. It didn't happened and at the same time the believe that I wasn't being taken care of kept growing. I felt I had to keep pushing to be attended and my attention kept switching from the healing process. There's no communicator or ring or bell to call Cathy or Billal while lying in bed. I shouted to be attended. I see a small electronic device making communication more effective effortless. I was given the test dose by Bilal while Cathy was away. At some point being on the trip I hear Bilal leaving the house shouting on the phone, "... but he's already taken one!,,,"`. Sometime later Cathy arrives on a hurry and gives me the next dose. I felt there was I lack of communication between them. The service provided by Bilal I rate very poor. I feel his behaviour as rude, unemphathetic, irresponsible, unrespectful, forgetsome, noisy. Yelling, listening to music on the next room without headsets despite having ones and me asking for it. Paying liitle attention to costumer needs, arguing, imperative kind of statements, use of blaming to deviate responsaility. After a few days an argue sparked between us, me saying something like "man you are yellling all the time, please stop yelling". I received no psychological guidance, which I believe I could benefit from. I don't feel I worked on my emotions, feelings, past events... I don't feel the experienced allowed me to resolve... I felt quite the same, frustrated. I felt calm after moving to the wood cabin outsite the house. It was quite. Cried a bit, and felt like doing some of the work. Less anxious and worried that at the house. During the days I stayed there (5 days) I didn't find much to do. There was no internet connection, and no signal on my phone. No nearby beautiful places. I left a day earlier. I spoke with a couple of people who had gone to Harambe before me, and was given positive reviews about the experience, particularly about their resultant mood after the trip and the cease of the drug abuse.
Benjamin July 17, 2016
The first thing you have to understand about ibogaine is that it isn’t supposed to be a walk in the park, and while it will take away your withdrawals pretty much straight away, there’s still a lot of work you have to do yourself if you really want to get clean. Expecting to turn up at Harambe and take a magic pill to sort out all your problems while you enjoy a week of luxury is not the right attitude, so seriously, take notice of what Cathy and Bilal tell you, because they will give you what you need – even if it isn’t what you want. Their house is the perfect place to take ibogaine if you are really serious about getting off drugs. There’s no Jacuzzi, swimming pool or five-star catering, and it’s completely no frills, which is exactly how this sort of thing needs to be done, because ibogaine forces you to face up to your demons and spend some time taking a good hard look at yourself. The less distractions, the better, and while it may be a harrowing and uncomfortable experience, there’s no way to get clean without going through this. In fact, the reason so many of us stay on drugs is because we keep avoiding our real issues and are too scared to face up to ourselves. At Harambe, Cathy and Bilal won’t let you run away from yourself, and will force you to spend as much time as possible alone with yourself – so don’t fight them when tell you to go back to your room and lie down. Ibogaine is an amazing tool to help you achieve this, as not only does it make your withdrawals disappear, but it also brings you into contact with all the suppressed thoughts and feelings that you continually bury in your subconscious and try not to acknowledge. However, ibogaine alone can’t force you to face these suppressed thoughts, and lots of people who come to Harambe seem not completely misunderstand what they have to do. You are here to climb a mountain, not to have a nice time. I’ve seen people come here and complain about the fact that there’s nothing to do or that the facilities aren’t luxurious enough for their liking. But the truth is these are just excuses. Yes, the days after taking ibogaine are very uncomfortable. You won’t be able to sleep, you’ll feel exhausted, and you’ll feel hungry but won’t be able to eat. It’s a weird feeling, but if you can’t handle a little bit of suffering then you probably aren’t ready to get off drugs – after all, the reason most of us get addicted to drugs is because they help us to block out the pain and suffering we experience in our lives, rather than face it. While you’re here, Bilal and Cathy will give you tough love. Don’t ask them for junk food when you’re feeling a little uncomfortable, because they won’t give it to you – and you should be thankful to them for that. After all, ibogaine has just purged all the toxins from your body, so why do you want to start filling it with shit again? Stick to the healthy diet they give you, and man up and face yourself alone in the bedroom until they tell you it’s time to come out.
Viktoria V July 07, 2016
My motivations I got in touch with Harambe partly because ibogaine's something I'd been wanting to experience for a long time for spiritual insight, and partly because I was in deep depression. I had arranged this years ago with another provider, which fell through, but I have met somebody who was treated by him before, and he said that if any of his friends gave up on their lives, he would really recommend it to them. As I was close to that point, his words got new significance to me. Getting in touch I initially corresponded with Cathy, and we arranged my dates, my medical tests, and she advised me to take a week long juice fast before the treatment. She later told me that she will be away during my treatment, and her husband Bilal will be with me. Bilal was a bit lousy with correspondence, and didn't exactly put me at ease at first, but finally after spending a few hours at their house I felt reassured by his confidence. His style of costumer care is not what you're used to from Marks and Spencer, but he knew what he was doing and he took good care of me and has never overstepped any of my boundaries. I personally much prefer his extra casual style to those gentle spoken hypocritically spiritual and enlightened people that you often find around psychedelics. Honestly I was not 100% cool about giving my life in the hands of somebody I found online, but it reassured me that they allowed me to bring a friend, and Bilal even lent him his car so he could drive to town to do some shopping and look around. The treatment at Harambe I took the magnesium salt drink that gave me the shits, Bilal explained that the point of this, and the juice fast is to create a clean slate for ibogaine. I was not allowed to drink during the treatment and the preceding hours, because any water makes you throw up, and when you throw up, it's really violent, plus you lose any ibogaine left in you. This makes dosage difficult to keep track of, but Bilal does a good job managing it. Bilal gave me a bunch of advice and reassurance to prepare me for what's coming. He didn't engage much in my story, like reasons to do this and the things I've seen, but I think he understood. I don't know if this is his personal style or he felt that I din't want to talk much, but I think it was a good thing, because I was engaging too much with my problems, and I didn't need another person to enable me. The treatment was in a room in the family home, so it's very informal and no medical stuff like drips or heart monitor. I didn't miss it that extra level of safety though. Although this was the most mentally and physically draining experience of my life, I never felt my health was in danger. The visions part The treatment went like this: the first like 8 hours I was just seeing a lot of stuff. More than I can remember, but a lot. It was really intense, amazing, high frequency, and just exhausting to even witness. In the meantime I was conscious all along, but coordination of my body flew right out of the window, I wouldn't have been able to as much as adjust my pillow. Bilal was next room and told me to call him when I need or want anything, and came in regularly to check on me even if I didn't. Initially I thought I would feel more safe with somebody right next to me, but when I was in treatment, I understood there would be zero point to having somebody sit next to me, because this is a very internal journey. My sensitivity to sound and light got incredibly heightened, and Bilal did a great job blocking out all the light, but not so much the sounds. Every noise sounded like it was coming through a big steel pipe pointed at my ear, so even whatever small noises of daily life would snap me out of whatever vision I was having, but the dog yapping away was really doing my head in. I entertained fantasies about kicking him across the valley, and laughed about how unenlightened that is. I didn't see any particular point of a lot of my visions, and a lot of them were metaphors for things in my mind. I got to see into my mind like never before, and at one point I could feel my true emotions and values (as in what's important to me) without the distortion of thinking. The quiet part I was hoping to go deeper and have some breakthrough experience, and when the visions started wearing out, I started beating myself up over not having done so, then I just made the decision to stop thinking, and for the first time in my life I was able to do it COMPLETELY, for many hours. The next few days I could only think if I made a special effort, because my mind felt so exhausted. Bilal said that this part is a lot more important than the vision stage, and that it matters a lot to stay in this quiet part for as long as possible, because this is what makes the most difference. I now really see why, because we think so much and even if we try, we can't give ourselves much of a break from it, so several days are a miracle. When after coming home, friends have jokingly asked me if I've got enlightened, I said yes, but it's passed :P It's really good that Harambe gives the opportunity to stay for several days after the treatment, because having a space where you don't have to deal with anything and force yourself to think is really essential to make most of the experience. My life afterwards Although I didn't have the kind of breakthrough or the afterglow I read about in many reviews, it really helped with my life. First of all, immediately I put the problem that was causing my depression into place: out of my life. I can not say out of my mind, but I guess it's normal, still it was a huge leap for me to be able to act in my own interest again, and stop wasting all my energy, so it flowed right back into my life. I am once again able to take part in my life, and cultivate the things that I really care about: friendships, my work, my health and learning things. As time passed, I noticed that I have changed in few ways. I din't become better or worse, but I became more me, I work a bit differently from before, and in a few respects different things sit right with me than before.
Henrik Landvik July 04, 2016
Firstly, I am quite surprised to read the first review here of Harambe Detox centre. It is very far from the good experience I had there, as did the two guests that were visiting at the same time as I did. I have visited Bilal and Cathy twice, and received very good treatment. Many things of what the couple writing the review before me experienced as so bad, I guess had to do with misunderstandings and false expectations. On the Harambe website it is clearly stated that they offer treatment in a familiar atmosphere, not a clinical. I guess some people prefer it clinical, but then the price for the treatment also goes up, more than twice the price Harambe asks for, at least. As for the experiences during the treatment, it is true that one is "inside-out", very sensitive. I guess the stay for them started off on the wrong note, the things they mentioned being said on arrival is surely a misunderstanding, Bilal speaks quite fast and with an english accent that can be hard to follow if not used to it. Wrong expectations, misunderstandings, insecurity, and then ibogaine to top it off - the experience can get very strange and unsettling indeed. There are auditory hallucinations, ie one might think there is a party going on etc. etc. - I was sure there was a swedish guest in treatment right outside my door, I heard her speak, and that people were bathing in a whirlpool outside my window, having fun, speaking loudly. None of this happened. I have visited Harambe Detox twice for opiate detox, and I can speak only well about their treatment, and of them personally. It might surely not be for everyone, we are different and at least think we need different kinds of treatment, but if you are open-minded, if you don´t mind a familiar "down to earth" atmosphere, and are willing to communicate your needs in a normal open way, Harambe is a very good alternative. The testimonials on their website speak for themselves. Of course, they are still developing their place, some things will come in time, but both Bilal and Cathy have very well-founded knowledge and experience of ibogaine and the treatment. The magnesium at begin is to clear out the bowel, and Bilal speaks clear and open what its for, could be too open for sensitive ears. I for one felt very safe under Bilals guidance, and had a very intense time where I was truly transparent, emotionally aswell as physically strained. When under the influence it could be that fears one carries inside starts painting a picture of what one thinks is the outside, and massive distortions can occur. Again, as for me, I can only recommend Harambe Detox. As I said, for a better understanding of their treatment, who they are and what to expect, read into their website, and the many testimonials there from thankful guests. And, to get most out of ibogaine as such, try to come with an open mind. Some people have read too much beforehand, and have a clear picture of how the experience should be. Try not to. It will always be different.
A.R. May 10, 2016
Myself and my girlfriend went for ibogaine treatment to harambe detox in Valencia - Spain as we thought we need professionals to make sure our experience is safe and we get most out of the trip. From the very first moment there was unpleasant and scary atmosphere. We arrived to their house and first words we've heard was: “there is no toilet paper and the reason for that is:,,if you put shit on you face you wouldn't wipe it with toilet paper, would you? Hahahaha” so that was the way to explain that we won't have any toilet paper. We went to our room which was also the treatment room. There was no hot water so after journey we couldn't take a shower. As there was no toilet paper we had to wash ourselves in cold water whenever we went to toilet. Additionally we got huge dose of magnesium as Bilau said: “to release all the shit from intestines” so imagine you have diarrhea all the time, there is no hot water either toilet paper and on second day of arrival for few hours when effects of magnesium were the worst there was no water at all as Bilau decided to do building works just before our trip. In the bathroom for both of us there was 1 tiny hand towel for entire week. Before the treatment my girlfriend was stressed but it didn't stop Bilau from making jokes like: “don't worry, I will fuck you up, hahahaha” - while talking about the doses and the treatment itself, which meant to be a joke again but in this situation it wasn't funny at all and it wasn't the best way to build trust and safe atmosphere before the treatment. Let's talk about the treatment itself. We got doses and were waiting for the effects to come, we lay on the bed finally and he closed the door etc. My girlfriend was getting panic while I got knocked down by the dose and started strong trip. They didn't bother to be quiet which on trip is so important but run family life and made noises in the most important time of our trips without any consideration of us being there even though they know your senses are very sensitive while on iboga. Noises were highly disruptive, didn't even bother to close the door from the living room and silent the treatment room. Because of this I was not able to go deep but was more in and out, in and out all the time. Therefore I didn't get as much from trip as I could if there would be a professional approach. My girlfriend went through absolute terror as a reason of wrong set and setting and general atmosphere of dominance and mistrust and he had no clue how to help her out (the only thing he could do was to ask: “are you ok?”. Even though he claims to have several years of experience with iboga he behaves like a child and I have a feeling that I would be able to make much better trip myself. Bilau mentioned several times that he had problems before with women coming for the treatment and not feeling comfortable there with him and with his methods, but with their unprofessional approach no wonder he got several complaints from people and there were people who wanted to take him to the court. Even though he had so many complaints from women clients previously (which he admits he had) he still kept blaming my girlfriend that she doesn't feel safe because SHE has a “trust issues” so ones again he never takes any responsibilities for his actions and behaviors and doesn't understand that people come for the treatment to him because they need safe environment and care for their trip otherwise they could do it themselves. The good thing I must say was that when my girlfriends first trip was bad (due to his wrong set up and attitude and not being able to deal with the bad trip) he offered a second trip free of charge which my girlfriend took and this one wasn't good either. He wanted to make it right but he just couldn't do it... On the website states: “fresh meals cooked everyday from organic veg from our garden” but the only meal we ever got was few grapes, 3 apples and tap water. We have been suggested to buy fruit and food ourselves for which we had to walk 5km one way everyday. For the entire week we spent there we were never offered even any tea or coffee or asked if we need anything at all so being weak and tired after treatment we had to walk 10k to buy some food. We couldn't use internet as the “internet is only for family”, we've been asked to switch off lights all the time as there was no enough electricity while lights in their rooms were on most of the time and the music was played loudly in their living room just 1m away from the treatment room. Another nice gesture of them was that because there was two of us at the same time we asked for some discount on the price and they gave as a total discount of €300 which they didn't have to give as we only asked when we arrived. Overall for both of us we paid €3000 and all we got for that was a bed, dose of iboga, one tiny towel, few grapes, 3 apples and that's it. If you are looking for a professional care and supportive environment for your tremendously important treatment of your life then I certainly wouldn't say thats the right place to go. The guys have very good intentions and they want to make it right but they have no clue how to make it right because they don't listen or take any feedback, they are only focused on their own family life and thats their only priority, that their family life is undisturbed and it's not about people getting professional treatment. So there was shouting, loud music, partying while us being on the trip – no problem for them. They would need way more effort to focus on client, lead client through experience, teach the client how to cope with negative emotions while on the trip etc but they just have no skills or empathy to do it. I don't blame them for that, its just the way they are and they can not do any better than that. Very childish approach without taking any responsibility for the client. With their current attitude it can be actually a very dangerous experience. You get something which doesn't match at all with what is described on the website. We were shocked that something like that can happen and that people can be so selfish while charging so much money for such a poor service. Would I recommend it to others or come back again? NO F… WAY! REPLY FROM HARAMBE DETOX CENTRE I have to defend myself against these very negative accusations. I will take each of his comments point by point. Firstly how was the atmosphere scary? I stayed awake to pick them up 3am when they missed their train and brought them to our house a 50km round trip. There is no toilet paper for 2 reasons, the first is that we have many people who think that it is ok to stuff rolls of paper down the toilet and it is Spanish plumbing which quickly blocks up, therefore the waste water comes back into the house and no matter how many times we tell people they ignore our requests and we always end up having to unblock the toilets and it is a very unpleasant situation. The second reason is that the shower water cleaning method is used by millions of people around the world and is much cleaner and more environmentally friendly. It is true that, if you put shit on you face you wouldn't wipe it with toilet paper, blunt but true. We do have hot water, I dont understand why they didnt and if you didnt then why not say it to us, the hot water that is available in all the house comes from the same gas tank so if I have it, then they have it, if it is not coming through to their room then there would be some problem but how would I know this if they could not tell me. It takes time to heat up and travel through the pipes, maybe they gave up while waiting the 2 minutes for the hot water to come through. The water is totally filtered and drinkable with a state of the art filter, we try to be as self sufficient as we can be, solar power, filtered water, growing our own food, this does not equate to the deluxe living that some people in the western world are used to, such as leaving every appliance plugged in, leaving the lights on all night etc. The magnesium flush is a part of the treatment, most bidets in the world are cold water, most people do not mind this but as the review is rather toilet fixated so maybe it was really an issue for them, but I make no apology for this. Towels are available and supplied so that point is not true. I will agree that my comment to his girlfriend which was totally a joke and using street vernacular which I am used to, may have been too much for her sensitive disposition. Most people coming to me want to be fucked up, to lose themselves in order to find themselves, otherwise why would you do this at all? I am used to talking like that with people, sorry if I am rough round the edges, I am who I am. I am not in the business of wishing to hurt someone so why would she even think that? My suspicion is that she was afraid of a black man, afraid of being in a black mans house, I am well used to this attitude from many people and have lived with it all my life .....what to do? I blame the media personally. It is not true that we made loads of noise, auditory hallucinations are common, people think we are having a total rave or fighting, but its all in their head. Cathy took the kids out as she always does for the majority of the sensitive part of the trip. He went so deep that he could not talk, his girlfriend who was not getting deep due to her own unfounded fear of me, was talking his out of his trip, it has happened before with couples, even friends in the same room. What was the atmosphere of dominance and unprofessionality? I have much more experience than him at this, if people want me to hold their hand then I do, but they were cold shouldering me after their initial friendliness, he wanted to protect his girlfriend and really did not want me talking to her at all, again I am used to this, iboga can make people react strangely. No-one is taking me to court, can you imagine someone taking anyone to court because they tried iboga? I do not have many complaints from women and I did not say that. I said that when taking iboga, I become the focus of some women who for whatever reason have been hurt by men, maybe their father, they start to attack me sometimes physically, sometimes verbally, but this is under the iboga, after they come round the aggression subsides, it is not personal, I dont take it personally. Fresh food is cooked all day, what an insult to Cathy who cooks all day from 7am, 2 large pots of coffee are brewed in the morning, tea is available, we are not servants, there is a kettle, a fridge stocked with food, full fruit bowl, they claimed that he was gluten intolerant and I am so there is plenty of gluten free food in my house but they made the choice every day, walking to the village to buy white bread and pork which is all that is available in those villages, he insisted on doing that saying he wanted something to do. He claimed he had never felt so energised and alive!!! Him and his girlfriend were really drunk one night after they had been in the village bars till about 1am, really unbelievable behaviour for people doing iboga. I did not give his girlfriend a free treatment because of anything I had done, I gave it to her, as I gave them discount out of the kindness of my heart as she was so nervous that the first did not work, that is a very rare occurrence and has nothing to do with me, it is the way the body processes the alkaloids. They basically got a good ride so they thought they would spend the money they had saved on eating out and taxis, that was their choice. We didnt say that internet was for family only, we said it was limited, so we dont give out wifi access, also as people can start writing messages to their family that they are in the war or that they have been kidnapped and freaking out the family while they are on iboga! Also another thing you dont need to be on the computer while doing treatment as it interferes with the process. What family home has parties every day? I have to say he has a vivid imagination! I wish I had the time or energy to party continuously, my life is looking after people, staying awake so that I can watch that people are safe. They shut themselves in the bedroom the whole time, terrified to talk to us, even at the expense of their own happiness. Maybe he should learn not be afraid to talk face to face with people, when asked if needed anything he just grinned and said no, we are not mind readers but we knew they did not like us, we have all sorts of people come here, most are fantastic interesting people, then there is the 1% that makes you feel uncomfortable in your own house and you wait for them to leave and move on. Iboga is not for the faint hearted. Be warned!!!!!